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Im not talking a specific case, or a bunch of exceptions.

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛im not even talking about those chinese people who are learning english in china, let's look at canada, how many chinese? could be close to 1 million( i guess), to be a little bit conservative, like say, 500,000 chinse people live in canada(which mostly is an english speaking country) for about 30 years(may be more than that), and how many chinese people can comfortably speak what he want to speak? one or two? I don't know. Visibly, chinese are everywhere across the country and any city, but the chances are, when you catch a chinese on the street, after the "hello, how are you" and then everything goes to chinese communication, esp. for chinese come from mailand, always sucks

"If you learn, you can", I'd like to say, "if you learned that sentence, you might be able to speak that sentence later on" and you have to rehearse it quite often. my point is, chinse people mentally all operate on a chinese operating system, and no matter how many years you have put your effort to learn english(for those chinese people who were born in canada, that's a totally different story), the chinese operating system can not generate english same as the english generated by the english operating system, so they have to put themselves in an endless learning process, once it stopped, all you have learned, all gone. my father once was an english teacher in china, after many years of teaching math, he can barely speak "hello" and "goodbye" and in a very chinese way, that's it.

for those lucky chinese immigrants who have been granted the opportunities to pursue their careers as they did in china, congrats, but if you take a closer look, the vast majority just follow instructions of their bosses, the communication skills and relationship usually are not strong enough to carry long term business, lots of people will eventually go back to where they come ffrom, part of them choose to stay for their next generation. ok, I have talked too much更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 工作学习 / 外语学习 / anybody tell me why chinese people can not speak english?
    • If you learn, you can.
    • who told you that. DONT jump to the conclusion. As far as I know, many Chinese have very good sense of English
      • Im not talking a specific case, or a bunch of exceptions.
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛im not even talking about those chinese people who are learning english in china, let's look at canada, how many chinese? could be close to 1 million( i guess), to be a little bit conservative, like say, 500,000 chinse people live in canada(which mostly is an english speaking country) for about 30 years(may be more than that), and how many chinese people can comfortably speak what he want to speak? one or two? I don't know. Visibly, chinese are everywhere across the country and any city, but the chances are, when you catch a chinese on the street, after the "hello, how are you" and then everything goes to chinese communication, esp. for chinese come from mailand, always sucks

        "If you learn, you can", I'd like to say, "if you learned that sentence, you might be able to speak that sentence later on" and you have to rehearse it quite often. my point is, chinse people mentally all operate on a chinese operating system, and no matter how many years you have put your effort to learn english(for those chinese people who were born in canada, that's a totally different story), the chinese operating system can not generate english same as the english generated by the english operating system, so they have to put themselves in an endless learning process, once it stopped, all you have learned, all gone. my father once was an english teacher in china, after many years of teaching math, he can barely speak "hello" and "goodbye" and in a very chinese way, that's it.

        for those lucky chinese immigrants who have been granted the opportunities to pursue their careers as they did in china, congrats, but if you take a closer look, the vast majority just follow instructions of their bosses, the communication skills and relationship usually are not strong enough to carry long term business, lots of people will eventually go back to where they come ffrom, part of them choose to stay for their next generation. ok, I have talked too much更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • Could you first tell me why Canadian can't speak chinese?
      • cuz they do not have the mandatory chinese language course built in their education system, make sense?
        • i heard that Chinese will be organized as the 2nd important language to take in the school. That will be common to speak in Canada soon.
        • If that is the case,why don't they build chinese in their education system?
    • Yourself or those you know can't speak well doesn't mean other Chinese can't either.
      • im not impressed at all
        • You would never be for sure. Take a look at your writing - "anybody tell me", "im", "like say" ...... OHO, a long long way to go.
          • you're just arguing for the sake of argument and showing nothing to back you up
            we're not talking about the same thing.

            the text message Spears used to dump Fed-Ex is like this: "I h8 u, loser", how beautiful and creative is that from the linguistic perspective of view

            "offline" is another feature I think it can fit chinese english well, if you ever took a look at this english forum, most likely these people can not keep a live conversation flowing in the way it should, it has to be cut short in some way and go offline, and then they look up those difficulty words in dictionary, in this forum etc. and then next time go online for a couple of minutes and off again. let's look inside his mind and see how many minutes his brain/operating system is running in english mode? may be just a few minutes to a couple of hours per day at most. how can you keep your english up to date with those brains who are running in english mode 24 hours/day?

            im not here to blame chinese english, just want to identify and face the facts before I can do anything right
            • any constructive feedback or suggestion would be great!
            • You even don't know how to copy and paste. It's beyond your ability to get things right. End of story.
    • 为啥不问问自己捏?
    • 这不光是中国人的问题,是所有英语为非官方语言的族裔的新移民都会碰到的问题。这你上上ESL就知道了。学一门新的语言对谁都不是件容易的事。你看一下加拿大多少人能达到双语听说自由的水平就知道了。
      学语言天赋和兴趣当然重要,但更重要的是勤奋。